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Mom had requested and signed a DNR at the nursing home. Mom told me my sister had a fit and was going to have it reversed.
Is it possible for her to reverse it even though Mom is of "Sound Mind"? Mom is very upset by this and I'm trying to help her. Kimicoco |
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Kim let me reiterate to you, you dont need to tell anyone about the business affairs of your mom and if you become her DPOA the only people you discuss ANYTHING with is her PCP thats it the remaining family doesnt need to know.
If your mom chooses to share information with them she can but like the ole sayin goes... "The less said the better" Once you get the program do like I do always keep a copy of the DPOA and DNR with you I have a file at my desk should I need to jet MIL to the hospital for any reason and at admittance I hand the copy over to the appropriate person when I go back home I replace it right away. This is also where I keep a current list of meds since hospitals always need this Now take a deep breath, heck take a few and relax, siblings will either get with the program or not, either way your doing what mom wants remember that....you've earned your stripes ********************************************** Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit. |
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Thanks all,
Dochka, I read to my siblings the explanation of DNR from Wikipedia along with all other discussions. Didn't seem to help. One thing that may be of concern is what you wrote Mae. Hospital will need a copy if she is re-admitted. OUCH - I can just feel the attacks now when I need to submit a copy to the hospital. Will get through this like everything else. It sure would be a lot easier if all the siblings were on the same page but does that ever happen?????????? Kimicoco |
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Your quite welcome sweetie glad to hear its mellowing out a bit too.
That program will also assist you and hubby, you can use it over and over again it has the capacity to do so, it will keep records of everyone so if need be you can go back to it and print up extra copies whenever you need to. ********************************************** Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit. |
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Thanks all,
My sister called me asking (in a threatening tone) if I knew Mom was signing a DNR. I said no (with my fingers crossed) and explained that it is hard but this is Mom's life and she understands fully what a DNR is. I may have calmed her down some. I do believe she was ready to attack me for helping Mom with this. Thanks Bunnys grl for the computer info. I'm going to check into that. In fact, with all this info I've been learning next will be setting things up for my husband Ken and myself. Thanks again, |
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Thank you Dochka thank you. My FIL is one such person who suffered greatly from being resuscitated in the end. I will never block a DNR request/order ever because of that incident. ********************************************** Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit. |
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Here is an explanation of DNR taken from Wikipedia:
"A Do Not Resuscitate, or DNR order is a written order from a doctor that resuscitation should not be attempted if a person suffers cardiac or respiratory arrest. Such an order may be instituted on the basis of an advance directive from a person, or from someone entitled to make decisions on their behalf, such as a health care proxy; in some jurisdictions, such orders can also be instituted on the basis of a physician's own initiative, usually when resuscitation would not alter the ultimate outcome of a disease, and is designed to prevent unnecessary suffering. Any person who does not wish to undergo lifesaving treatment in the event of cardiac or respiratory arrest can get a DNR order, although DNR is more commonly done when a person who has an inevitably fatal illness wishes to have a more natural death without painful or invasive medical procedures. A common belief is that most attempts at cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) are successful. In contrast to medical dramas seen on TV, cardiopulmonary resuscitation has a success rate of surviving to discharge from the hospital around 10-20 percent. Of those who do survive initial resuscitation, a large proportion either die shortly afterward or are left with permanent physical/neurological deficiencies. Therefore, medical students and doctors alike are encouraged to be realistic with patients and families when discussing DNR orders, as it is thought that many wrongly believe resuscitation to be a risk-free guarantee to life." Hope this helps! |
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Nope and it's pretty nervy and selfish of sis to have a fit about her mom's own wishes for her own life, IMHO. "She ain't heavy; she's my mother." Mom got her wings 11/18/2008 |
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when my husband was placed on hospice all the necessary papers were included with the file.Seeing I had 2 files I saved the one set of papers for my self.
Have to sit down and fill them out.Nothing to do with finances as of yet.I like the trust your dad set up, Bobcat. Anyone who is in business for them selves and forms a cooperation should have the spoce as an officer of the corp.They can claim an income , pay taxes and also have an IRA.The new Ira allows you to do more with the money then they use to.Also allowed to put more money in each year. |
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Only your mom can retract those orders.
It's a hard concept to accept, especially since no one wants to face the possibility of losing someone, but I don't think anyone signs a DNR without being totally aware of what it means. I think that the folks who sign DNRs have already accepted death and the fact that it will happen to everybody no matter what. |
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Nope she sure the heck cant if mom is of sound mind its not up to your sister and since your mom is of sound mind cause the NH wouldnt have asked, tell your mom she needs to revoke her DPOA if thats what she wants
As an afterthought Kim I have a program I used by Suze Orman if mom is worried about cost this CD program for the computer ranges in price from $9 on up depending where you get it from I got mine from none other than QVC a while back but Amazon has it now its called Will & Trust kit Now I know your probably sittin there sayin putor program EEK not so my dear I can use it...Ok you dont know me from Eve but that means if I can use it with no problemo ANYONE can It is legal in all states you can produce your own DPOA and POA as well as a Will and Trust and if at any time you get stumped Ms Orman has an 800# to her very own Lawyer listed on this program for help. All you need is access to a putor some printing paper a couple of minutes hours of your time access to a Notary Public (this is what you pay for) and 2 witnesses This message has been edited. Last edited by: Bunnys_grl, ********************************************** Well, butter my butt and call me a biscuit. |
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If mom is of sound mind her word is god.Also , I think you can have it witnessed by a staff member
This is mothers wishes.Not easy for one to accept but that is why they do such.They want to take these hard decisions out of loved ones hands..They still give a certain leeway when a loved one is seriously ill.They make sure avenues are traveled before they say they can do no more .Also , they will have a copy of the living will.Any doctor or hospital you take her need to have a copy.Also one for your records. |
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